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Sunday, 29 April 2018

whats the deal with quranism?

okay so i just got done talking to my uncle who is a quranist scholar who heard i came back into islam (many of my family are giant quranists), like this dude is legit no small fry, i'm not a hadithist or quranist or anything like that im a baby at all this stuff, but there were some basic questions i couldn't understand.

okay so hadith are transmitted in the exact same way the quran is transmitted yet we should deny the entirety of the hadith literature but accept the quran cus its from god. can someone explain what im not getting here, that logic makes no sense to me. why should i even trust the quran then on a logical level. im supposed to jut have pure blind faith? also how am i supposed to get a more expanded idea of what the quran is talking about? how am i even supposed to know what the quran means and how am i supposed to learn more about this man who brought this quran to us if i just throw out all of the history of islam cus hadith is man made. all the answers i keep getting just keep putting me in loops,

all i can tell from his arguments they were very emotional, is this what islams meant to be? i thought it was meant to have some level of logic in it, this brings me back when i first left as a kid, he went in depth about how pure a form he is following. again forgive my misunderstanding can someone please help me, this sub has been very good to me in the past there are a lot of excellent minds here. ive watched many videos on this now and read up on it but i feel very confused.

why is this even a discussion exactly? and such a heated one at that, in my head it all makes sense, qurans from god, sunnah is the way of the prophet who had this quran revealed to him. hadith is the resource that we use to understand how to best follow that path. the quran gives basic guidance yes i understand that, the quran is perfect yet i get that, the quran is all i need to live life i get that, the hadith have flaws in it yes i understand that too, but this is the method that was chosen by god to preserve the understanding of this book. as far as i can see without these hadith guys wed be screwed, could i even pick up a quran today and interpret anything from it without them?

im learning modern arabic right now and becoming a haafiz like im not some hillbilly like he made it out to be, but since languages evolve over time could i not just have a completely different meaning assigned to the quran because of the conditions that im in (socially, emotionally, economically etc) than literally anyone else. so then hows this any better than Christianity no offense to christians. like whats the point in believing this? he made the argument that i should believe in the unseen cus the quran says so. and whilst i do accept the quran is from god something doesnt sit quite right about all this.

do i really have to abandon all hadith or die by them? both seem so unappealing to me on a logical level, please help me

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